John talks with Dave Rubin about American strength and its decline.

Dave Rubin is an author, comedian, and TV personality best known for his political commentary.
He is the host of The Rubin Report and his latest book is Don’t Burn This Country: Surviving and
Thriving in Our Woke Dystopia.
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